[artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3

charliebrownau charliebrownau at protonmail.com
Mon Apr 26 03:48:46 CEST 2021


Gday Artix / Arch / Linux Comminity

Does Artix have any plans to support

1.
* Actually support Freedom of Speech
Along with , Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Region

ablity to openly talk about real issues that effect Linux, Kernal , Arch, CoC
push for centralisation and corporation gatekeeping without censorship and speech codes

- Freenode does not support unristircted uncensored speech
- I offered to pay for a VPS for uncensored IRC but it was rejected
I made a room on freenode and it got shutdown and I got booted from the network



2.
* Drop Copyright mainstream kernal for Libre Kernal
https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
Drop Policykit, Dbus, Pulse Audio



3.
* See if pipewire can work without Systemd
I saw something the other day that Obarun are working towards getting a tiling manager using wayland
and Pipewire to work without systemd/dbus/pipewire
http://www.obarun.org/


- I had some issues on Artix and had to drop it for Endvour OS
as I couldnt find a solution on various search engines
and banned from Freenode


- I know actual unristricted uncensored free speech might be a forien concept
to many since no longer give Gays, Women, soft , weak, Insert OFFENDED group power
to crush real open debate using logic, reason, stats, gender realism, race realism
yet we have been conditioned and brainwashed to self censor and
refuse to talk about Nations, Hobbies, groups and industies
that are getting subverted, ruined and infected by those who hate us,
hate our nation, hate our values, hate our hobbies

Either the Linux Community has to admit we have been subverted and controlled and directed
or Linux turns into a poltical actisim arm for the goverment, it ends up closed source and gatekeeped

or we actually embrace real open diussion

The choice is yours

Put the head into the SAND
or be open to real speech without pandering and self censoring



* 4. Also a real disussion should be had to talk about if Linux should be supporting
Corporations
that push
Anti merit
Anti Privacy
Anti White
Anti Free speech

Such as
Red Hat
Mozzila
Microsoft
Linux Foundation
Linode
etc



- I myself have been migrating away from
Corporations, Closed Source and bad software

Ive migrated and recommended for others to :-
* Google Chrome to Iridium
* Firefox to LibreWolf
* Microsoft Office to LibreOffice   ( myself I use nano/abiword/gnumeric)
* Thunderbird to Claws-mail or webmail
- Im even using Simple Screen Recorder instead of OBS since its become big, bloated and dropped ALSA



* 5.  Should Corporation software made with bad inentions, bad security, bad privacy ?

Is it time to PURGE
* Microsoft Edge
* Microsoft Skype
* Discord
* Firefox
* Google chrome
from Artix/Arch/AUR/Linux


* 6. Should Anti White/Feminists/SJW/Commies/Zionists/Marxists/Trans be allowed in the Linux Community/Arch/Artix

EVERY SINGLE TIME when you have a
Jewish Tranny
Jewish Zionists
Feminist
Diversity
Marxist
SJW
Commie
WOKE

They will always use
 Hobbies
 Groups
 Linux
 Software
 Corporations
 with funding and a voice to shift from original goal of the hobby/group/project
 into a poltical activist arm
 kick out original base
 take over
 implment speech codes
 (look up DIVERSITY CIRCLE effect)


Also its amazing how many Linux Communties still refuse to self host or use alt tech offerings
eg

* Ruffus instead of Reddit .
  Free speech alt tech replacement for Reddit that is now CHINESE ownned and censors using sjw/marxist/offended.

* Self hosted IRC instead of freenode

* Vultr or someone else besides Linode
  (Linode supports BLM/Diversity/anti merit)


* Mumble + IRC or XMMP instead of Discord

  Discord CEO is a zionist Jew, the "trust and safety" team log servers, censor and deplatform people for the "wrong" viewpoint
  (Anything that doesnt align with World Dictorship/Agenda 21/International Zionism/ "white" commies)



* Migrating away from centralised code servers such as Gitlab/github and self host a server
 (github owned by Microsoft corporation)




- Also it would be nice if more of the Linux Community/arch/non systemd communties
would be willing to post a simple blog/info on Gemini , an upcoming fork of Gopher
to avoid the bloated web

Gemini Page - gemini.circumlunar.space/
CLI client - https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora
GUI Client - https://github.com/skyjake/lagrange




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On Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:13 PM, <artix-general-request at artixlinux.org> wrote:

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> 1.  Re: lxqt-panel pacman errors (Javier)
> 2.  Re: [universe][thunderbird-artix] differences with arch extra
>     thunderbird (artist)
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> 3.  Re: [universe][thunderbird-artix] differences with arch extra
>     thunderbird (artist)
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> 4.  Musl libc as systems libc (Delta Echo)
> 5.  Re: Musl libc as systems libc (Chris Cromer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 15:31:58 -0600
> From: Javier je-vv at e.email
> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] lxqt-panel pacman errors
> Message-ID: d8a55f99-d186-23eb-74ca-3e1411cd0b2f at e.email
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> On 4/18/21 3:28 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
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> > Does anyone know or can they fix this error for lxqt-panel
> > error: failed retrieving file 'lxqt-panel-0.16.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst'
> > from mirror.maakpain.kro.kr : Maximum file size exceeded
> > error: failed retrieving file 'lxqt-panel-0.16.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst'
> > from artix.funami.tech : Maximum file size exceeded
>
> Well, downloading it from a mirror, and placing it into the cache, and then upgrading again, seems to work BTW.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Javier
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> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:05:01 +0000
> From: artist artist at artixlinux.org
> To: Ruben Safir ruben at mrbrklyn.com
> Cc: Javier je-vv at e.email, "artix-general at artixlinux.org"
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>     <artix-general at artixlinux.org>
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>
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [universe][thunderbird-artix] differences
> with arch extra thunderbird
> Message-ID: 9bf79074-ef24-4b33-f15e-cbca5da04e38 at artixlinux.org
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> https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,2054.0.html
> https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,2054.0.html - Topic: we
> provide Mozilla Thunderbird for Artixlinux
>
> On 4/18/21 9:24 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 11:32:40AM +0200, artist wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Javier,
> > > It's named thunderbird-artix as indeed when named thunderbird the
> > > order of included repo's in pacman.conf would determine which one
> > > would be installed, which might lead to confusion and issues.
> > > One of the reasons to provide thunderbird-artix is that it's
> > > critical that any security issues in an email client are fixed asap,
> > > but Arch's updates of Thunderbird are almost always weeks behind.
> > > Thunderbird-artix is available within a day of a new Thunderbird
> > > release. Also, the api integrations for ie. location services for
> > > Google and Mozilla have been disabled, as well as crashreporter and
> > > updater, and jack audio is enabled.
> >
> > Sounds like a winner. Where is it?
> >
> > > Thx for the hint about octopus, which seems interesting.
> > > Regards,
> > > artist
> > > On 4/17/21 11:50 PM, Javier wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello !
> > > > I noticed universe has a "thunderbird-artix", and I'm wondering
> > > > why named "-artix" instead of plain "thunderbird", in which case
> > > > if "universe" is included in pacman.conf before arch repos, then
> > > > the universe thunderbird package would be installed, rather than
> > > > the arch one...
> > > > Something else I'm wondering is what are the main differences.? By
> > > > looking at [1] vs [2], I can't notice much difference, except by
> > > > some dependencies...? Unfortunately, on [3] (the thunderbird-artix
> > > > gitea), I only see the PKGBUILD available as to asses differences
> > > > on the mozconfig.cfg build options...? Perhaps someone can tell.
> > > > Conveniently enough arch offers language packages for TB, but TB
> > > > can manage installing them any ways, so not a must...
> > > > BTW, It would be nice if artix version integrated octupus [4] on
> > > > its build, but looking at the PKGBUILD only, it doesn't seem it
> > > > does.
> > > > I
> > > > 1st heard about it from arch-general mailing list [5][6].? That
> > > > would add great value I believe.
> > > > Thanks !
> > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:46:58 +0200
> From: artist artist at artixlinux.org
> To: Javier je-vv at e.email, "artix-general at artixlinux.org"
>
>     <artix-general at artixlinux.org>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [universe][thunderbird-artix] differences
> with arch extra thunderbird
> Message-ID: 989175d2-cad9-c92f-3bc7-1294e2f7922b at artixlinux.org
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> As per https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,2511.0.html
> https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,2511.0.html :
>
> Sequoia Octopus OpenPGP Mail Encryption for Thunderbird is now available
> as package sequoia-octopus-librnp in the Artix Universe repo.
>
> According to
> https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/04/08/202103-a-new-backend-for-thunderbird/
> https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/04/08/202103-a-new-backend-for-thunderbird/
> the Sequoia Octopus OpenPGP library is:
>
> /Super powering end-to-end email encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird/
>
> Warning and known limitations from the project itself:
>
> /WARNING WARNING WARNING//
> //This is a young project.? Use it with caution with your production
>
> Thunderbird profile and production keys, and make sure you have a backup
> (of at least pubring.gpg, secring.gpg, and openpgp.sqlite) and know how
> to recover.//
> //
> //Known limitations//
> /
>
> -   /There may be dragons./
> -   /When Thunderbird auto-updates, it overwrites the Octopus' version
>     of librnp.so with its own version. This issue has been reported to
>     Thunderbird./
>
> -   /Thunderbird reads and caches the available certificates on startup.
>     Thus if you add a new certificate to gpg, even though the Octopus
>     will load it, Thunderbird will not notice it until either you
>     manually reimport the keys using Thunderbird's OpenPGP Keyring
>     Manager, File, Reload Key Cache, or you restart Thunderbird./
>
>     /Note: Thunderbird only caches the list of keys and some meta-data, so
>     it will normally take advantage of any updates inserted into the gpg
>     keystore or fetched via Parcimonie./
>
>     To install and activate:
>
> -   Move file /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so to another location
> -   Install package sequoia-octopus-librnp
> -   ln -s /usr/lib/sequoia-octopus-librnp/libsequoia_octopus_librnp.so
>     /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so
>
>     Note: Thunderbird updates replace /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so
>     requiring redo of the above steps
>
>     To verify if the Sequoia Octopus OpenPGP library is being used, start
>     Thunderbird from the command line; the output should show a line like:
>     console.debug: "Successfully loaded OpenPGP library librnp.so version
>     1.0.1+sequoia-openpgp-1.1.0 from /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so"
>
>     For information on how to enable the universe repository check
>     https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories
>     https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories
>
>
> --
>
> On 4/18/21 10:54 PM, Javier wrote:
>
> > On 4/18/21 3:32 AM, artist wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Javier,
> > > It's named thunderbird-artix as indeed when named thunderbird the order
> > > of included repo's in pacman.conf would determine which one would be
> > > installed, which might lead to confusion and issues.
> > > One of the reasons to provide thunderbird-artix is that it's critical
> > > that any security issues in an email client are fixed asap, but
> > > Arch's updates of Thunderbird are almost always weeks behind.
> > > Thunderbird-artix is available within a day of a new Thunderbird
> > > release. Also, the api integrations for ie. location services for
> > > Google and Mozilla have been disabled, as well as crashreporter and
> > > updater, and jack audio is enabled.
> > > Thx for the hint about octopus, which seems interesting.
> > > Regards,
> > > artist
> >
> > BTW, there have been a couple of interesting additional posts
> > regarding octupus on Arch [7][8], in case that's an option (apparently
> > no need to patch TB, but I can't tell for sure).? I'll be exploring
> > those when having some time, but I wouldn't complain if integrated to
> > Artix before I can take a look :)
> > Thanks for clarifying about the diffs on thunderbird-artix.? I like
> > the location being disabled by default.
> > Thanks again !
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:25:42 +0600
> From: Delta Echo deltaecho255 at gmail.com
> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: [artix-general] Musl libc as systems libc
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> Is there any interest in making Musl the systems libc?
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> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:13:01 -0400
> From: Chris Cromer cromer at artixlinux.org
> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] Musl libc as systems libc
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> That is not really within the scope of this project. We follow arch
> linux, and arch linux is a glibc distro. To be able to offer musl would
> require recompiling 100% of the packages against musl and honestly that
> is a giant task and far beyond anything we have the manpower to do.
>
> Would it be cool? Yes. Is it doable? No.
>
> On 4/23/21 8:25 AM, Delta Echo wrote:
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> > Is there any interest in making Musl the systems libc?
>
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> Chris Cromer
> Artix Developer
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