[artix-general] Things that push me away from Artix [Feaures/Improvements requests]

Ruben Safir ruben at mrbrklyn.com
Thu Jul 3 00:11:11 CEST 2025


***note I wrote how the message is hard to read and then sent and even
wrost message.  I apologize.
Re-edit:
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This is very hard to read.  Some of the problem I am sure is the
language barrier, and I commend you for your effort to write such a
lovely message in your non-native tongue.  But some of it is something
else, I don't know what exactly.  I understand that your would like
to see the support of more init processes, and I am sure the dev team
will look at the request and reply.

The second part about the number of ISO's, that I did not understand what
your are requesting.


Let me just say something about the AURs.  The arch AURs can be very
useful, but even if you are using native Arch, they can be hit and miss.

Regardless of their short failings, they fulfil a great purpose for many kinds of software and allow users to build projects they care about without stepping on the core developers. I don't see it as a disadvantage.  If anything, it is a huge advantage because it allows for a small development community to focus on core functionality and not have to build every kind of client software under the sun.  The fact is that the artix dev community is relatively small.  But they are also very accessible which is completely lost in large projects. So considering the alternatives, AURs or using freshmeat, I like the AURs.

Reuvain



On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 01:37:48PM +0200, Andrea-Mobile wrote:
> Hi everyone ,
> 
> I'm a big fan of Artix Linux , and I really want to use it as my daily .
> 
> I'm a big supporter of features like init freedom and xlibre
> support.
> 
> However, there are some points that are making me to not use Artix as my distro of choiche :
> 
> - Not enough support fo (init free) packages : I still have to access to Arch and AUR for packages that supports init freedom , and that are hard to configure with the more advanced inits (such as s6)
> As istances , emptty login manager support all the init systems provided by Artix, however, there is no support for it, and do the make install from the sourcecode doesn't works with some inits (such as the s6 init, s6 is not able to start it).
> Another example , leftwm supports other inits than systemd (there is a leftwm-nosystemd on the AUR) , but no support from Artix .
> 
> - ISO management : I'm really agaist multiple distros with Artix's choices. EndeavourOS offers a great example about ho things should be done in my opinion : a only one Calamares ISO , where you can choose everything , the desktop , the display servers , the init system , the repos enabled (and now that xlibre is on the road, also the xserver implementation , if possible).
> This approach would give 100% full control to the user, peritting him to easy perform an installation as minimal as he want
> 
> - Arch-dependent distro : this is not as important as the other two points , but in my opinion, if there are enough resources, a increment of developers number is necessary , and the distro should go more indipendent fom Arch.
> Having more packages without adding Arch's extra repos and also providing more init-free packages is necessary in my opinion.
> 
> Thank you for your attention
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