El sáb, 01-02-2025 a las 17:57 +0100, Carlo den Otter escribió:
> I tested E24 iirc, and it crashed frequently. Good to hear it's
> working
> better now.
My memory is fading as I have been on E25 and after for so long, but do
not recall many stability issues. When Manjaro started changing I
discovered that what had been my main OS before, Mageia, had E hidden
away and have run with that since. There the only problem that I have
seen recently is with notices related to network connections from
networkd. Connman would be preferable, does not seem to play well with
the distro for reasons I have been too lazy as yet to track down.
>
> Moksha currently has 23 themes, all available in our galaxy repo and
> updated regularly. I have no knowledge of the specifics of these
> themes;
> for that you can check Bodhi's Moksha forum or contact TheWaiter
> directly.
Thank you. I may do that as I expect many are continuations of the
themes Agust developed, many of which were very, very good.
> Jeff's gh repo is still used but only for some modules mainly so you
> won't find theme updates there. Both Moksha devs each use their own
> one
> and one that is for Bodhi packages.
Curious to see Moksha using all those old modules.
>
> I moved EFL 1.28.0-22 to our stable repo earlier today but indeed it
> has
> an issue with E. The package is a compromise as it has to work for
> both
> E and Moksha - and I'd rather not split it of for one og them - but
> the
> 1.28.0-3 version that was built an hour ago tests fine with E.
Thank you, artist, that solved the problem. (There was a drm-related
library that was not found before.) I can understand not wanting to
split the packages and hope that does not cause problems with e down
the road. However, I have not seen any problems in the last year and
e27 now seems to be running fine.
>
> artist
> On 2/1/25 17:31, RWR wrote:
> > El sáb, 01-02-2025 a las 14:41 +0100, Carlo den Otter escribió:
> > > The past years Moksha provided a complete and absolutely stable
> > > desktop,
> > > while E failed at both. The new E release is far more complete
> > > than
> > > the
> > > previous one but I did not use it enough to be able to asses its
> > > stability.
> > Curious, I've not seen any problems with stability in the last
> > couple
> > of releases.
> >
> > > Both E and Moksha were in the Omniverse repository but half a
> > > year
> > > ago
> > > Moksha was moved to the Galaxy one:
> > > https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Site/MokshaDesktopForArtix. Note that
> > > the
> > > Moksha/Bodhi devs are very active in improving, porting and
> > > creating
> > > modules and a new Drawer module might be released soon. There are
> > > many
> > > Bodhi/Moksha reviews online and all of them are full of praise
> > > about
> > > how
> > > lightweight, feature rich and beautiful this DE is.
> > >
> > I obviously have not kept up closely with Bodhi: the start was
> > strange,
> > it seemed to struggle after Hoogland left, and I definitely did not
> >
> > From their website I see some old familiar themes...and that do
> > not
> > seem to have been updated in years. The release of the Flat Theme
> > coincided with changes that rendered the old themes less than fully
> > compatible. Simon Lees did modify the old B&W theme, released as
> > Dimensions (and perhaps the ones he does for OpenSuse). However, at
> > a
> > minimum the new cpufreq module is incompatible with that theme --
> > although he has promised to take a look at it.
> >
> > > The new E release requires a new EFL version which had not yet
> > > been
> > > tested and adopted for Moksha. I checked with one of the Bodhi
> > > devs
> > > (I'm
> > > often in contact with him and sometimes with the E dev) and he
> > > expected
> > > no problems. About a week ago Moksha added the new EFL to their
> > > repository and the same has now been done with EFL in our Galaxy
> > > repo.
> > I saw that...and you should have seen a minor improvement with EFM.
> > On
> > one of my machines I still have a Win7 partition to which I need
> > access...which is now possible with EFM!
> >
> > > The new Enlightenment package was already in the Omniverse repo
> > > and
> > > can
> > > be installed from there.
> > Thanks artist, but I just updated e and efl...and the system hangs
> > when
> > logging into the updated E. Hmmmm...
> > > artist
> > >
> > > On 2/1/25 10:44, aguador wrote:
> > > > When the latest version of Enlightenment did not appear, I
> > > > searched
> > > > and
> > > > see that it is no longer in the Artix repositories (from which
> > > > I
> > > > thought I installed it around a year ago). Instead I discovered
> > > > that
> > > > the Bodhi Linux fork Moksha has been added/taken its place.
> > > > Questions:
> > > >
> > > > * Is there a reason for the change?
> > > > * Will E also be packaged?
> > > > * If E will not be packaged, can it safely be imported from
> > > > Arch,
> > > > or
> > > > must it be built with Artix due to systemd dependencies?
> > > >
> > > > Note that I started using E in Manjaro (when it had a community
> > > > of
> > > > E
> > > > users). I recall when Jeff Hoogland forked e17. While I
> > > > sympathized
> > > > a
> > > > bit with his frustration, I felt him wrong for forking it. He
> > > > could
> > > > have continued to contribute to the later releases of E as the
> > > > devs
> > > > are
> > > > quite open to contributions.
> > > >
> > > > E has continued to develop nicely and the latest releases of it
> > > > and
> > > > efl
> > > > are better than ever. Much of the improvement is in efl, so I
> > > > suppose
> > > > Moksha benefits --assuming the devs there keep up with the
> > > > theming
> > > > changes (e.g., the latest cpufreq module required an update to
> > > > the
> > > > Flat
> > > > Theme).
> > > >
> > > > Roy
>
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