From je-vv at e.email Mon Dec 23 04:28:34 2024 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:28:34 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] Is there a way to keep track of artix mailing lists without subscribing (like through RSS/Atom)? Message-ID: <634f40dd-6754-4861-a4c2-4771e45142eb@e.email> Artix unsubscribed me from one of its mailing lists, I guess given bounces (the notification to me came from -bounces at artixlinux.org). But I have no control over those bounces since I don't self host my email. Actually not long ago my email provider (/e/ AKA murena) had a 2 or 3 weeks email service outage... So I'm wondering if I can keep track of any artix mailing list through RSS/Atom news coming from every email or batches on mailing lists. This way I don't really need to be subscribed, and I guess I can continue writing to the ones I'm allowed to, without needing being subscribed, and indicating to CC me directly on the emails I write. But I'm not aware of such service from the mailing lists. It would be really really nice to have it available. Does anyone know if this is possible and if so, how to request the artix administrators to consider it? The idea would be to subscribe to the RSS/Atom feed rather than the mailing list. Artix already offers a RSS feed, but it's only for the announcements, what I'm suggesting is to expand that to all mailing lists, so users can keep up with what's exchanged on the emails without subscribing to the mailing list. I'm aware of some solutions that turn my received messages on the inbox rather into RSS feeds, but for that I need to be subscribed to the mailing list, which defeats the purpose of not needing to be subscribed to them, but rather some RSS/Atom feed. Thanks ! -- Javier From je-vv at e.email Tue Dec 24 01:44:01 2024 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 18:44:01 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] python upgrade to 3.13 Message-ID: Earlier Today during an artix upgrade, python was getting upgraded to 3.13 from 3.12 along with a bunch of packages providing python modules. However 1st, at the point I upgraded, I had uninstall samba due to conflicts. Eventually I had to revert all python related changes, :(. It seems it was too early and around half the packages still remained at 3.12. But the worse was AUR packages, it seems 3.13 is pretty aggressive deprecating several things, and Arch decided to go that way. I couldn't rebuilt the first three packages I tried, and I was not finding a clear path on the browser on how to deal with the failures. I do have a couple of self maintained packages I didn't even try. My guess, at least the Artix repos' packages might get settled for 3.13 at some point, so it might be a matter of time hopefully, as usual with just a couple of packages here and there which will require users to notify them. But I'm wondering how to deal with packages that will need re-build, it doesn't seem as trivial. Any guides available for this particular 3.12 -> 3.13 python upgrade? As of now I can't share output, since I already reverted, and can't reproduce unless moving to 3.13, but I'll wait at least an extra day to see if the Artix packages settle down to 3.13, and only then I'll go back to packages requiring re-build from AUR or self-maintained. Thanks ! -- Javier From artist at artixlinux.org Tue Dec 24 13:55:05 2024 From: artist at artixlinux.org (Carlo den Otter) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 13:55:05 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] python upgrade to 3.13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6bb78167-f2e3-49ab-b5e5-34039da05b34@artixlinux.org> The samba issue was solved yesterday as per https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7560.0/topicseen.html All other python 3.13 related problems that were reported in our forum and #artix irc channel have also been fixed during the past 2 days.So the Artix python and related packages are now 'settled' in our repo's. The only problems I'm aware off were in the build checks, in which case we disabled these. artist On 12/24/24 01:44, Javier wrote: > Earlier Today during an artix upgrade, python was getting upgraded to > 3.13 from 3.12 along with a bunch of packages providing python modules. > > However 1st, at the point I upgraded, I had uninstall samba due to > conflicts.? Eventually I had to revert all python related changes, > :(.? It seems it was too early and around half the packages still > remained at 3.12.? But the worse was AUR packages, it seems 3.13 is > pretty aggressive deprecating several things, and Arch decided to go > that way.? I couldn't rebuilt the first three packages I tried, and I > was not finding a clear path on the browser on how to deal with the > failures.? I do have a couple of self maintained packages I didn't > even try. > > My guess, at least the Artix repos' packages might get settled for > 3.13 at some point, so it might be a matter of time hopefully, as > usual with just a couple of packages here and there which will require > users to notify them.? But I'm wondering how to deal with packages > that will need re-build, it doesn't seem as trivial. > > Any guides available for this particular 3.12 -> 3.13 python upgrade?? > As of now I can't share output, since I already reverted, and can't > reproduce unless moving to 3.13, but I'll wait at least an extra day > to see if the Artix packages settle down to 3.13, and only then I'll > go back to packages requiring re-build from AUR or self-maintained. > > Thanks ! > From somenxavier at posteo.net Tue Dec 24 16:07:18 2024 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:07:18 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] python upgrade to 3.13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20241224160718.bd92035a71e3798388a53404@posteo.net> I experiment some issues too with python-feedgen. I hope this package will be upgraded soon. On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 18:44:01 -0600 Javier ha escrit: > Earlier Today during an artix upgrade, python was getting upgraded to 3.13 from 3.12 along with a bunch of packages providing python modules. > > However 1st, at the point I upgraded, I had uninstall samba due to conflicts. Eventually I had to revert all python related changes, :(. It seems it was too early and around half the packages still remained at 3.12. But the worse was AUR packages, it seems 3.13 is pretty aggressive deprecating several things, and Arch decided to go that way. I couldn't rebuilt the first three packages I tried, and I was not finding a clear path on the browser on how to deal with the failures. I do have a couple of self maintained packages I didn't even try. > > My guess, at least the Artix repos' packages might get settled for 3.13 at some point, so it might be a matter of time hopefully, as usual with just a couple of packages here and there which will require users to notify them. But I'm wondering how to deal with packages that will need re-build, it doesn't seem as trivial. > > Any guides available for this particular 3.12 -> 3.13 python upgrade? As of now I can't share output, since I already reverted, and can't reproduce unless moving to 3.13, but I'll wait at least an extra day to see if the Artix packages settle down to 3.13, and only then I'll go back to packages requiring re-build from AUR or self-maintained. > > Thanks ! > > -- > Javier > > -- > artix-general mailing list > artix-general at artixlinux.org > https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general From artist at artixlinux.org Tue Dec 24 16:44:48 2024 From: artist at artixlinux.org (Carlo den Otter) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 16:44:48 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] python upgrade to 3.13 In-Reply-To: <20241224160718.bd92035a71e3798388a53404@posteo.net> References: <20241224160718.bd92035a71e3798388a53404@posteo.net> Message-ID: The current version of the python-feedgen package contains /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ so it's not clear what is wrong with it. artist On 12/24/24 16:07, Xavier B. wrote: > I experiment some issues too with python-feedgen. I hope this package will be upgraded soon. > > On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 18:44:01 -0600 > Javier ha escrit: > >> Earlier Today during an artix upgrade, python was getting upgraded to 3.13 from 3.12 along with a bunch of packages providing python modules. >> >> However 1st, at the point I upgraded, I had uninstall samba due to conflicts. Eventually I had to revert all python related changes, :(. It seems it was too early and around half the packages still remained at 3.12. But the worse was AUR packages, it seems 3.13 is pretty aggressive deprecating several things, and Arch decided to go that way. I couldn't rebuilt the first three packages I tried, and I was not finding a clear path on the browser on how to deal with the failures. I do have a couple of self maintained packages I didn't even try. >> >> My guess, at least the Artix repos' packages might get settled for 3.13 at some point, so it might be a matter of time hopefully, as usual with just a couple of packages here and there which will require users to notify them. But I'm wondering how to deal with packages that will need re-build, it doesn't seem as trivial. >> >> Any guides available for this particular 3.12 -> 3.13 python upgrade? As of now I can't share output, since I already reverted, and can't reproduce unless moving to 3.13, but I'll wait at least an extra day to see if the Artix packages settle down to 3.13, and only then I'll go back to packages requiring re-build from AUR or self-maintained. >> >> Thanks ! >> >> -- >> Javier >> >> -- >> artix-general mailing list >> artix-general at artixlinux.org >> https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general From somenxavier at posteo.net Tue Dec 24 17:39:01 2024 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 16:39:01 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] python upgrade to 3.13 In-Reply-To: References: <20241224160718.bd92035a71e3798388a53404@posteo.net> Message-ID: <20241224173901.ca12d5401d2b3361161e5c6f@posteo.net> MM..... OK. I will see that... 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