[artix-general] artix-general Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1

charliebrownau charliebrownau at protonmail.com
Thu Feb 2 23:16:08 CET 2023


Gday

Is it really the worse thing in the world that Librewolf isnt available on the very latest build ?

Do we really need to upgrade and change so frequent ?

Im using Librewolf v105.3 appimage
( https://gitlab.com/api/v4/projects/24386000/packages/generic/librewolf/105.0.3-1/LibreWolf.x86_64.AppImage )
all the websites work fine

If people wanted the very latest , you can grab the appimage from
https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser/appimage/-/releases

eg https://gitlab.com/api/v4/projects/24386000/packages/generic/librewolf/109.0-1/LibreWolf.x86_64.AppImage



I personally found issues with one of the latest Delta Chat builds and had to go back until two more verisons was released
and give the 3rd one a go 

Im finding lately the 'latest' often is
Buggy
Broken
Crashy
injected ((( RUST))) or ((( PYTHON )))
suddendly spends on ((( Subvertd ))) ,((( dbus ))) , ((( policykit ))) , etc 

Sometimes its better to keep non OS files long term just works (stable) rather then the latest shiney

I can understand needing new files for production server or patching security flaws , but most of the desktop programs 
seem to work well as an appimage without changing it for months at a time

...

A great example of the newest is worst is XFCE
XFCE 4.16 was a downgrade and infected it with CSD
and 
the 'latest' 4.18 is aweful

I would rather 4.14 or 4.15
as everyone worked fine, for me 
duel monitors, different wallpapers and freesync
all worked on the older builds

Do we really need the 'latest thing'

Something to consider 

All the best
have a good weekend

Regards
Charliebrownau
charliebrownau at protonmail.com

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On Thursday, February 2nd, 2023 at 9:12 PM, artix-general-request at artixlinux.org <artix-general-request at artixlinux.org> wrote:


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> 1. Re: FYI: Thunderbird 102.7 not able to authenticate to
> enterprise 0365 (depends on admin actions) (artist)
> 2. Re: Thunderbird (world) 102.7 breaks sequoia-octopus-librnp
> (universe) 1.4.1-2 (Javier)
> 3. Re: linux 6.1.4.artix1-1 crashes with usb MediaTek mt7612u,
> 6.0.12.artix1-1 works just fine (Javier)
> 4. Re: linux 6.1.4.artix1-1 crashes with usb MediaTek mt7612u,
> 6.0.12.artix1-1 works just fine (Xavier B.)
> 5. librewolf (Xavier B.)
> 6. Re: librewolf (artist)
> 7. Re: librewolf (Xavier B.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 12:17:59 +0100
> From: artist artist at artixlinux.org
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> To: Javier je-vv at e.email, artix-general
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> artix-general at artixlinux.org
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> Subject: Re: [artix-general] FYI: Thunderbird 102.7 not able to
> authenticate to enterprise 0365 (depends on admin actions)
> Message-ID: 4db21f33-b1a3-17d2-60f5-c58bc0b99b01 at artixlinux.org
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> betterbird-102.7.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is now?in omniverse and seems to
> work - feedback is welcome
> 
> artist
> 
> --
> 
> On 1/25/23 01:21, Javier wrote:
> 
> > On 1/24/23 15:26, artist wrote:
> > 
> > > Package betterbird-102.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is now in the
> > > omniverse repo, including the MS OAuth2 fix. I'll test the fix myself
> > > tomorrow.
> > > 
> > > artist
> > 
> > Hopefully your testing is successful, though these 2 reports:
> > 
> > [1]? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1812090
> > [2]? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1810760
> > 
> > Make me believe the issue is still there, even 102.7.1 was supposed to
> > fix the issue.? So [2] was reopened, :(? The last comment on [1]
> > before being marked as a duplicate of [2], is that beta should have
> > fixed the issue.? It seems we have to wait a bit longer, so far [2] is
> > still not under fixed state...
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 18:24:28 -0600
> From: Javier je-vv at e.email
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> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] Thunderbird (world) 102.7 breaks
> sequoia-octopus-librnp (universe) 1.4.1-2
> Message-ID: 89f8cf7c-0da7-418d-2d07-bf83bc039d3a at e.email
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> On 1/23/23 14:01, Javier wrote:
> 
> > Hello Artist, I already tested TB 102.7 with octopus 1.4.1-4, and unfortunately, octopus still remains broken with TB 102.7.? It's working fine with TB 102.6.1-1.? It seems it's upstream then.? I'll look if a new issue on gitlab was filed, and otherwise, I'll report a new one...
> > 
> > Thanks a lot !
> 
> 
> FYI:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/sequoia-pgp/sequoia-octopus-librnp/-/issues/83
> 
> --
> Javier
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:14:24 -0600
> From: Javier je-vv at e.email
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> To: "Xavier B." somenxavier at posteo.net
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> Cc: artix-general artix-general at artixlinux.org
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> Subject: Re: [artix-general] linux 6.1.4.artix1-1 crashes with usb
> MediaTek mt7612u, 6.0.12.artix1-1 works just fine
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> On 1/22/23 08:02, Xavier B. wrote:
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> > Perhaps you could install linux-hardened meanwhile (now 6.1.7).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Xavier
> 
> 
> I've never used linux-hardened, it would be interesting to compare linux source package (PKGBUILD, configs, patches) vs. linux-hardened. One interesting difference is that linux is part of "system", while linux-hardened is part of "world". It's like "core" vs. "extra" on arch.
> 
> That said, linux 6.1.8.artix1-1 is already part of "system", and it came out without the issue. Not sure if that linux version came out already fixed, or if the patch used on 6.1.7 by arch got propagated. The good news is that the artix linux 6.1.8.artix1-1 package works just fine...
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> Thanks !
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> --
> Javier
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> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 14:50:51 +0000
> From: "Xavier B." somenxavier at posteo.net
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> To: Javier je-vv at e.email
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> Cc: artix-general artix-general at artixlinux.org
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> Subject: Re: [artix-general] linux 6.1.4.artix1-1 crashes with usb
> MediaTek mt7612u, 6.0.12.artix1-1 works just fine
> Message-ID: 20230131155051.ad611be3a0c2fa2a233c5d9e at posteo.net
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> Just a suggestion meanwhile. For not having waiting time.
> In Arch wiki in Security page is a good point to start to see the enhancements. I ignore the source comparison. Just a user here.
> 
> Regards,
> Xavier
> 
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:14:24 -0600
> Javier je-vv at e.email ha escrit:
> 
> > On 1/22/23 08:02, Xavier B. wrote:
> > 
> > > Perhaps you could install linux-hardened meanwhile (now 6.1.7).
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Xavier
> > 
> > I've never used linux-hardened, it would be interesting to compare linux source package (PKGBUILD, configs, patches) vs. linux-hardened. One interesting difference is that linux is part of "system", while linux-hardened is part of "world". It's like "core" vs. "extra" on arch.
> > 
> > That said, linux 6.1.8.artix1-1 is already part of "system", and it came out without the issue. Not sure if that linux version came out already fixed, or if the patch used on 6.1.7 by arch got propagated. The good news is that the artix linux 6.1.8.artix1-1 package works just fine...
> > 
> > Thanks !
> > 
> > --
> > Javier
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 14:31:12 +0000
> From: "Xavier B." somenxavier at posteo.net
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> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: [artix-general] librewolf
> Message-ID: 20230202153112.c69170268c1429dc073bfa93 at posteo.net
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> I see the librewolf package in artix is 108.0.1 but in arch AUR there is 109.0 available. Can someone please upgrade package?
> 
> On the other hand, following official page [1], it seems there are two versions of librewolf in AUR: librewolf and librewolf-bin. From which artix package is built?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Xavier
> 
> [1] https://librewolf.net/installation/arch/
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 20:23:03 +0100
> From: artist artist at artixlinux.org
> 
> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] librewolf
> Message-ID: 2c1ee6e5-4e4a-100f-750d-bc7a285e67d5 at artixlinux.org
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> I had already tried, but the build failed. Since half a year it fails
> more often than it succeeds, and firedragon has become even worse.
> Alternative ungoogled-chromium usually builds OK, and hence can be kept
> up-to-date.
> 
> artist
> 
> On a bended knee, or systemd, you will never live free
> 
> On 2/2/23 15:31, Xavier B. wrote:
> 
> > I see the librewolf package in artix is 108.0.1 but in arch AUR there is 109.0 available. Can someone please upgrade package?
> > 
> > On the other hand, following official page [1], it seems there are two versions of librewolf in AUR: librewolf and librewolf-bin. From which artix package is built?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Xavier
> > 
> > [1] https://librewolf.net/installation/arch/
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:12:21 +0000
> From: "Xavier B." somenxavier at posteo.net
> 
> To: artist artist at artixlinux.org
> 
> Cc: artix-general at artixlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [artix-general] librewolf
> Message-ID: 20230202221221.12564d30a7f9b56e53d19c60 at posteo.net
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> Sorry. Perhaps I express myself wrongly. I just wonder what we have older version of librewolf in Artix repos.
> 
> Thanks, artist, for your compilation efforts.
> 
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 20:23:03 +0100
> artist artist at artixlinux.org ha escrit:
> 
> > I had already tried, but the build failed. Since half a year it fails
> > more often than it succeeds, and firedragon has become even worse.
> > Alternative ungoogled-chromium usually builds OK, and hence can be kept
> > up-to-date.
> > 
> > artist
> > 
> > On a bended knee, or systemd, you will never live free
> > 
> > On 2/2/23 15:31, Xavier B. wrote:
> > 
> > > I see the librewolf package in artix is 108.0.1 but in arch AUR there is 109.0 available. Can someone please upgrade package?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, following official page [1], it seems there are two versions of librewolf in AUR: librewolf and librewolf-bin. From which artix package is built?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Xavier
> > > 
> > > [1] https://librewolf.net/installation/arch/
> > 
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