From je-vv at e.email Mon Oct 4 00:30:28 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 16:30:28 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [s6] new adminsv + [new?] network bundle + bundles in general Message-ID: Hello ! I noticed last week or early this week s6 users got new stuff: > /etc/s6/adminsv Inside you can find specific additional configuration for the: > /etc/s6/rc.local oneshot, like: > % ls /etc/s6/adminsv/rc-local/ > dependencies down type up An nice but short description about it was added to the wiki: > directory for custom user services as well as script packages from Artix that allow for editing Which seems in line with that new *adminsv* including oneshot configuration for rc.local. However it includes what seems a new bundle as well? > % ls /etc/s6/adminsv/network/ > contents type > % cat /etc/s6/adminsv/network/type > bundle > % cat /etc/s6/adminsv/network/contents > % So it seems we have a new bundle called *network*. Is it meant only for non artix provided -s6 oneshots and services. given it's under **/etc/s6/adminsv**? Or is meant to include everything depending on *networking* somehow? Should we, for example, move freshclam, dhcpcd, and other *netowrw* oneshots/services to the new bundle? So far, after installing an artix provided -s6 package, then I proceed to add its included oneshot/service to the default bundle. I have applied no exception to this procedure, unless when seeing a message log when installing, and some *filesystem* related ones, which I've noticed they are automatically bundled to boot most of the time or default. This was requirement some time ago, when I installed artix, however the wiki seems to suggest different: > *Note*: the *-s6 packages in Artix that are an optional dependency of s6-scripts install themselves inside the boot bundle. They do not need to be enabled manually or added to any other bundle This seems to kill the procedure I always apply. To be honest, it's not that often that I add new -s6 packages, but I'd like to be certain. Should I stop applying my procedure moving forward? And trust whether the -s6 packages' PKGBUILDs include some magic to automatically add their oneshots/services to the corresponding bundle (whether boot or default), or there's a pacman magic hook for that same purpose? If this is the case, perhaps my questions about moving *network* related oneshots/services from *default* to *network* makes no sense at all, since artix somehow places them in the right bundle to begin with... I can't tell for sure, or better said, I haven't spent the time to confirm every -s6 package I install, automatically gets into a bundle, since I apply the procedure I mentioned instead, :). Is there a PKGBUILD of reference for writing -s6 packages, which oneshots/services get automatically bundled one can take a look at? Well, if there's some hook to the PKGBUILD, that is, otherwise I'd guess it's a pacman hook... OK, I think enough questions for a single email thread, :) Thanks ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dudemanguy at artixlinux.org Mon Oct 4 16:07:01 2021 From: dudemanguy at artixlinux.org (Dudemanguy) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:07:01 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] [s6] new adminsv + [new?] network bundle + bundles in general In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03ea1918-56cf-a1d4-778d-3c27afd57ff4@artixlinux.org> On 10/3/21 17:30, Javier wrote> So it seems we have a new bundle called *network*.? Is it meant only for > non artix provided -s6 oneshots and services. given it's under > **/etc/s6/adminsv**?? Or is meant to include everything depending on > *networking* somehow?? Should we, for example, move freshclam, dhcpcd, > and other *netowrw* oneshots/services to the new bundle? You can put anything that *depends* on a network being up in the new network bundle. So freshclam would make sense to put there, but *not* dhcpcd. dhcpcd is a network *provider* so it should happen before that bundle goes up (i.e. leave it in the default bundle). Eventually the mount-net oneshot will go in there, it was left out for now because of how s6-rc-upgrade works. >> *Note*: the *-s6 packages in Artix that are an optional dependency of >> s6-scripts install themselves inside the boot bundle. They do not need >> to be enabled manually or added to any other bundle > > This seems to kill the procedure I always apply.? To be honest, it's not > that often that I add new -s6 packages, but I'd like to be > certain.? Should I stop applying my procedure moving forward? Like the message says, that only applies to optional dependencies of s6-scripts. There are only two of those for now (and probably for the forseeable future): cryptsetup-s6 and lvm2-s6. These two have to work a bit specially because a user might depend on them to mount certain critical filesystems during boot time. To be clear, also adding them to default doesn't do any harm. It's just simply not needed. It's been this way for quite a long time actually. You just didn't notice. ;) In general, nothing much changed. There is now just a new network bundle that you can opt to add services to require a network to be up. It executes *after* default so you would not add those services to the default bundle. For this to actually work, you of course need to have a service installed that provides a network like dhcpcd that goes up with your default bundle. From je-vv at e.email Mon Oct 4 20:00:36 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:00:36 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [s6] new adminsv + [new?] network bundle + bundles in general In-Reply-To: <03ea1918-56cf-a1d4-778d-3c27afd57ff4@artixlinux.org> References: <03ea1918-56cf-a1d4-778d-3c27afd57ff4@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: <9fe6123f-c58c-c827-0729-53c49dc79888@e.email> On 10/4/21 08:07, Dudemanguy wrote: > In general, nothing much changed. There is now just a new network bundle > that you can opt to add services to require a network to be up. It > executes *after* default so you would not add those services to the > default bundle. For this to actually work, you of course need to have a > service installed that provides a network like dhcpcd that goes up with > your default bundle. Great explanation ! Thanks a lot ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As you can notice, it includes optional dependency on *qt6-connectovity*, which is not a package. It should be I'd guess *qt6-connectivity... Greetings ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Oct 6 05:15:57 2021 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 20:15:57 -0700 Subject: [artix-general] (forw) Re: [mrbrklyn@panix.com: [Hangout - NYLXS] RSA finally being put to pasture] Message-ID: <20211006031557.GA10056@linuxmafia.com> Sending back on-list. ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen ----- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 23:28:52 -0700 From: Rick Moen To: Ruben Safir Subject: Re: [artix-general] [mrbrklyn at panix.com: [Hangout - NYLXS] RSA finally being put to pasture] Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com): > With the latest openssh updates, the rsa algorithm is being retired > after decades of use No, it's not. In fairness, you were relying on Atlassian, and they're grossly mistaken. > https://confluence.atlassian.com/bitbucketserverkb/ssh-rsa-key-rejected-with-message-no-mutual-signature-algorithm-1026057701.html Page says: Cause The RSA algorithm is being quickly deprecated across operating systems and SSH clients because of various security vulnerabilities, with many of these technologies now outright denying the use of this algorithm. For example - here is the announcement[1] from OpenSSH regarding their upcoming deprecation of the ssh-rsa algorithm. [1] https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-8.2 Yeah, that's the "ssh-rsa" algorithm, a _certificate signature_ algorithm for RSA keys -- and it's being deprecated because of longstanding flaws in the SHA-1 hash algorithm, _not_ in the RSA public-key cipher. As the OpenSSH release notes point out, superior _signature_ algorithms include rsa-sha2-256 and rsa-sha2-512, which, you'll note, are combinations of RSA keys with SHA2 digest (hash) algorithms. Accordingly, OpenSSH is removing "ssh-rsa" from (RSA/SHA1) the accepted CASignatureAlgorithms list -- but is not removing anything about or concerning RSA, only concerning SHA1. The dolts^W kind people at Atlassian don't seem to have bothered to actually read the page they cited. The dropping of "ssh-rsa" _signatures_ from the _certificate signature_ list on the ssh client side may be a pain in the neck. If that happens to you, you can add it back to $HOME/.ssh/config 's CASignatureAlgorithms line, for the time being. In the longer term, yes, SHA1 is overdue to die. More at: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/255074/why-are-rsa-sha2-512-and-rsa-sha2-256-supported-but-not-reported-by-ssh-q-key ----- End forwarded message ----- From somenxavier at posteo.net Wed Oct 20 22:09:43 2021 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:09:43 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] liferea doesn't work with latest glib2 harfbuzz harfbuzz-icu In-Reply-To: <20210928194829.37d860a243e5befa7401a22b@posteo.net> References: <20210925192817.7a3fe90b23e78a2018fca78e@posteo.net> <20210926223056.a2da7479db341b798f3d9568@posteo.net> <20210928194829.37d860a243e5befa7401a22b@posteo.net> Message-ID: <20211020220943.ed42b3779a7326f6b4fbb805@posteo.net> It works now with latest version On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:48:29 +0000 "Xavier B." ha escrit: > Anyone could confirm with package in extra (arch)? Or is it just my computer? > > Xavier > > > On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 20:30:56 +0000 > "Xavier B." ha escrit: > > > Now I use liferea from extra repository (arch). > > Is there some reason I have to replace? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 21:51:14 +0200 > > artist ha escrit: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > There's a liferea package in the omniverse repo > > > now that at > > > least starts OK. > > > > > > Artist > > > > > > On 9/25/21 19:28, Xavier B. wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Just comment that the liferea package does not work with glib2 2.70.0-1, harfbuzz 3.0.0-1 and harfbuzz-icu 3.0.0-1 > > > > With glib2 2.68.4 and harfbuzz* 2.9.1 works perfectly. > > > > > > > > Can anyone confirm that and provide some solution? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Xavier > > -- > > artix-general mailing list > > artix-general at artixlinux.org > > https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Oct 22 01:43:45 2021 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:43:45 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] My alarm clock is now broken and I am desperate to fix this ASAP Message-ID: Evidently now I can not run a sound program through cron SHELL = /bin/sh CRON_TZ = 'America/New_York' 34 19 * * * /usr/bin/amixer -c 0 set Master playback 100\% >> /dev/null 35 19 * * * /usr/bin/mplayer /home/ruben/docs/Rav\ Shorr\ Shium/*mp3 >> /dev/null 40 05 * * * /usr/bin/killall mplayer >> /dev/null 40 05 * * * /usr/bin/amixer -c 0 set Master playback 70\% >> /dev/null ~ This has worked for DECADES Now Oct 21 19:35:01 flatbush CROND[31748]: (ruben) CMD (/usr/bin/mpg123 /home/ruben/docs/Rav\ Shorr\ Shium/*mp3 >> /dev/null) Oct 21 23:35:01 flatbush rtkit-daemon[8419]: Supervising 12 threads of 11 processes of 1 users. Oct 21 23:35:01 flatbush rtkit-daemon[8419]: Supervising 12 threads of 11 processes of 1 users. Oct 21 23:35:01 flatbush rtkit-daemon[8419]: Supervising 12 threads of 11 processes of 1 users. Oct 21 23:35:01 flatbush rtkit-daemon[8419]: Supervising 12 threads of 11 processes of 1 users. Oct 21 23:35:01 flatbush rtkit-daemon[8419]: Supervising 12 threads of 11 processes of 1 users. Oct 21 19:35:01 flatbush pulseaudio[31755]: [pulseaudio] cli-command.c: stat('/etc/pulse/default.pa.d'): No such file or directory Oct 21 19:35:01 flatbush pulseaudio[31755]: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 Oct 21 19:35:01 flatbush pulseaudio[31755]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From p3d3f at riseup.net Fri Oct 22 09:40:43 2021 From: p3d3f at riseup.net (P3D3F) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:40:43 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] libvpx conflict In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi at all, I wnat to report you a problem with the upgrade of the libvpx library. Its in conflict with some important pachkages like thunderbird-artix and ffmpeg. I reported it also in the forum, but it seems like something that can create problem at many people. This are the message that I get during the installation: looking for conflicting packages... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' required by thunderbird-artix In detail, trying to install it alone and not with a pacman -Syu, the result is: Quote resolving dependencies... looking for conflicting packages... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' required by ffmpeg :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' required by thunderbird-artix Press any key to continue... -- P3d3f Mail:p3d3f at riseup.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you really are using mplayer you might try: /usr/bin/mplayer -ao alsa /home/ruben/WTF/*.mp3 Maybe then it will use ALSA instead of pus audio. - Jeff From artist at artixlinux.org Fri Oct 22 11:46:09 2021 From: artist at artixlinux.org (artist) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:46:09 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] libvpx conflict In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08f2b757-28c1-6283-3943-10c0d75eba9c@artixlinux.org> Hi, ffmpeg should work OK when using an updated mirror. thunderbird-artix is rebuilding right now - actually new version 91.2.1 - and will be available in the universe repo in an hour or 3. artist On 10/22/21 09:40, P3D3F wrote: > > Hi at all, > > I wnat to report you a problem with the upgrade of the libvpx library. > Its in conflict with some important pachkages like thunderbird-artix > and ffmpeg. > > I reported it also in the forum, but it seems like something that can > create problem at many people. This are the message that I get during > the installation: > > looking for conflicting packages... > > error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) > > :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' > required by thunderbird-artix > > > In detail, trying to install it alone and not with a pacman -Syu, the > result is: > > Quote > resolving dependencies... > looking for conflicting packages... > error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) > :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' > required by ffmpeg > :: installing libvpx (1.11.0-1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=6-64' > required by thunderbird-artix > > Press any key to continue... > > -- > > P3d3f > > Mail:p3d3f at riseup.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It makes no difference. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Oct 22 11:54:45 2021 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 05:54:45 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] My alarm clock is now broken and I am desperate to fix this ASAP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/22/21 05:00, Jeff Pohlmeyer wrote: > f you really are using mplayer you might try: > > /usr/bin/mplayer -ao alsa /home/ruben/WTF/*.mp3 > > Maybe then it will use ALSA instead of pus audio. indeed. Have you tried that. I killed pulse now. I removed all of gnome and pulse and it now works. I will need to set up a VM to test your well thought out proposition. There has to be a way of telling pusle or udev to let go of the sound system for non-desktop applications. This is why I hated systemd and this stuff still comes back and bites me on the ass all the time. Thanks - peace and love (\/) -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sat Oct 23 16:58:22 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 16:58:22 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Can't install artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64 Message-ID: Hi everyone. First of all, english is not my native language, so be kind with my poor english?! I just subscribed to this list because I can not instal artix. I'm not new in linux ; I use it exclusively since twenty years. I first used debian but stopped because of systemd. Now I use a slackware based distro named slint which focuses on accessibility (I'm blind and use exclusively the console whith braille and the package brltty). First of all, does artix ships brltty?? If not, I'll resign immediatly. I downloaded the artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64.iso and put it on an usbkey. I booted on that key and with help of a sighted person, I tried to install. In the menu at beginning, I choosed my timezone, my keyboard and my language. Then I go to a menuentry named "from cd/dvd/iso" or something similar. After a short time, I was asked for a login and a password. I choosed root but I don't know which password to enter. I tried just enter as often with an installer but it was refused. What can I do?? I read the manual guide on the website but I saw nothing about this. Thanks for any help. -- Philippe From artist at artixlinux.org Sat Oct 23 17:16:50 2021 From: artist at artixlinux.org (artist) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:16:50 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Can't install artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56c24adb-efcb-2a63-d61b-f505ac39b03c@artixlinux.org> Hi Philippe, The password for root is artix Package brltty is available. Also package brltty-s6 for the related service. I am not sure if this works for you, but you can also ask questions in IRC on libera channel #artix By the way, your English is not bad at all :-) Regards artist -- On 10/23/21 16:58, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Hi everyone. > > First of all, english is not my native language, so be kind with my poor > english?! > > I just subscribed to this list because I can not instal artix. > > I'm not new in linux ; I use it exclusively since twenty years. I first used > debian but stopped because of systemd. Now I use a slackware based distro > named slint which focuses on accessibility (I'm blind and use exclusively the > console whith braille and the package brltty). > > First of all, does artix ships brltty?? If not, I'll resign immediatly. > > I downloaded the artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64.iso and put it on an usbkey. > > I booted on that key and with help of a sighted person, I tried to install. > > In the menu at beginning, I choosed my timezone, my keyboard and my language. > > Then I go to a menuentry named "from cd/dvd/iso" or something similar. > > After a short time, I was asked for a login and a password. I choosed root > but I don't know which password to enter. I tried just enter as often with > an installer but it was refused. > > What can I do?? > > I read the manual guide on the website but I saw nothing about this. > > Thanks for any help. > From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sun Oct 24 10:16:06 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:16:06 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Can't install artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64 In-Reply-To: <56c24adb-efcb-2a63-d61b-f505ac39b03c@artixlinux.org> References: <56c24adb-efcb-2a63-d61b-f505ac39b03c@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: Many thanks. I'll try it as soon as someone can help me. Bests. -- Philippe Le samedi 23 octobre ? 17:16, artist a ?crit : > Hi Philippe, > > The password for root is artix > > Package brltty is available. Also package brltty-s6 for the related service. > > I am not sure if this works for you, but you can also ask questions in IRC > on libera channel #artix > > By the way, your English is not bad at all :-) > > Regards > artist > > -- > > On 10/23/21 16:58, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > First of all, english is not my native language, so be kind with my poor > > english?! > > > > I just subscribed to this list because I can not instal artix. > > > > I'm not new in linux ; I use it exclusively since twenty years. I first used > > debian but stopped because of systemd. Now I use a slackware based distro > > named slint which focuses on accessibility (I'm blind and use exclusively the > > console whith braille and the package brltty). > > > > First of all, does artix ships brltty?? If not, I'll resign immediatly. > > > > I downloaded the artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64.iso and put it on an usbkey. > > > > I booted on that key and with help of a sighted person, I tried to install. > > > > In the menu at beginning, I choosed my timezone, my keyboard and my language. > > > > Then I go to a menuentry named "from cd/dvd/iso" or something similar. > > > > After a short time, I was asked for a login and a password. I choosed root > > but I don't know which password to enter. I tried just enter as often with > > an installer but it was refused. > > > > What can I do?? > > > > I read the manual guide on the website but I saw nothing about this. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > From yetanothergeek at gmail.com Mon Oct 25 23:11:04 2021 From: yetanothergeek at gmail.com (Jeff Pohlmeyer) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 16:11:04 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Can't install artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 3:48 PM Philippe Delavalade wrote: > First of all, does artix ships brltty ? If not, I'll resign immediatly. Yes, Artix has a brltty package, but it might not be on the installation medium. > After a short time, I was asked for a login and a password. I choosed root > but I don't know which password to enter. I tried just enter as often with > an installer but it was refused. You should be able to log in as user "artix" with password "artix" and then use the "su" command to become root. I think the root password is also "artix" - Jeff From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Thu Oct 28 09:43:31 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:43:31 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Problems installing artix Message-ID: Hi everybody. Yesterday with the help of my son-inlaw, I installed artix from artix-base-s6-20210726-x86_64.iso. My helper googled a lot to find how to have a wireless connection. We used connmanctl. There was nothing about it in the installation guide... Then we ran the comands with basestrap and then chroot to /mnt. I ran pacman -S brltty brltty-s6 but nothing happened. Finally I rebooted hoping that maybe brltty could work then... After reboot, we obtained a message that looks like this : s6-log fatal: unable to finish current .u... operation not permitted Sorry but I can't remember exactly. I moved to tty2 and loged as root. I tried to run brltty but obtained an error saying that it does not exist. Now, I mount the artix partition from my distro (based on slackware). The command : find -executable -name '*brltty*' replies ./var/lib/pacman/local/brltty-6.4-1 ./var/lib/pacman/local/brltty-s6-20210919-1 ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635347459/servicedirs/brltty-srv ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635347459/servicedirs/brltty-log ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349459/servicedirs/brltty-srv ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349459/servicedirs/brltty-log ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349301/servicedirs/brltty-srv ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349301/servicedirs/brltty-log ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635345068/servicedirs/brltty-srv ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635345068/servicedirs/brltty-log ./etc/s6/sv/brltty-srv ./etc/s6/sv/brltty-log ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-stop.sh ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-start.sh ./usr/lib/brltty ./usr/share/brltty In directory ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty the README file says that an executable file /sur/bin/brltty should exist but it's not the case. So, what can I do?? Moreover, where can I find documentation about s6 and pacman?? Thanks for any help. Regards. -- Philippe From je-vv at e.email Thu Oct 28 11:17:15 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 03:17:15 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] Problems installing artix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <696ccba0-37e8-df14-07ca-22c6fa27b459@e.email> I have brltty because at some point it was a dependency for qemu or something qemu related. I just learned I can remove it... That said, it doesn't provide any binary under /usr/bin, see: > % pacman -Ql brltty > brltty /etc/ > brltty /etc/brltty.conf > brltty /usr/ > brltty /usr/lib/ > brltty /usr/lib/brltty/ > brltty /usr/lib/brltty/udev-wrapper > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/ > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/ > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/ > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/README > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/alsa-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/bluetooth-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-stop.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/dbus-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/module-setup.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/pulse-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/pulse-stop.sh > brltty /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/speechd-start.sh > brltty /usr/lib/sysusers.d/ > brltty /usr/lib/sysusers.d/brltty.conf > brltty /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/ > brltty /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/brltty.conf > brltty /usr/lib/udev/ > brltty /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/ > brltty /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-brltty-device.rules > brltty /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-brltty-uinput.rules > brltty /usr/share/ > brltty /usr/share/brltty/ > brltty /usr/share/brltty/Initramfs/ > brltty /usr/share/brltty/Initramfs/cmdline > brltty /usr/share/brltty/Initramfs/dracut.conf > brltty /usr/share/polkit-1/ > brltty /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/ > brltty /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.a11y.brlapi.policy > brltty /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/ > brltty /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/org.a11y.brlapi.rules Can't tell much more, than sharing what it provides as shown above, since I've never used it. For networking, I still use dhcpcd, and to get hooked into wireless, then I use wpa_supplicant. Don't know what you and the people helping you are more familiar with. BTW, artix repos also provide networkmanger, if you feel more comfortable with it. I wouldn't use basestrap, neither perform chroot, during installation, until confirming having the right network/internet connectivity. The artix wiki provides besides the installation guide [1], also a s6 specific guide [2]. Though I've been using s6 on several boxes day to day, perhaps some might find openrc more familiar and start with it. And the artix wiki offers guides for the different init systems it provides through its repos. For s6 in particular, I'll try to make sure the DB is up to date with all s6 oneshots/servers by executing on the target box (whether baremetal or chrooted): > /usr/share/libalpm/scripts/s6-rc-db-update-hook As indicated by the s6 wiki guide. You can also remove old unnecessary compiled- directories from /etc/s6/rc. And if you suspect something didn't install correctly while installing from scratch, whether through basestrap, or once chrooted, with pacman, then I would try installing again and copying the output if you think it's not working, so you can share the exact output... On s6 boxes, every now and then (but not installing from scratch) I've noticed the s6 stuff gets sort of under read only mode after installing, and usually that's associated with /run/s6-rc/compiled symlink getting somehow broken, and though I can fix the /etc/s6/rc/compiled if it gets broken, I haven't been able to fix /run/s6-rc/compiled when it gets broken, but the good news is that a reboot fixes it, :) But I can't tell if that's what you're experiencing, particular on an installation from scratch, :(. But taking a picture of the errors, and then writing that output down will help you further I'd guess.. Regarding pacman, that's not artix specific, and the pacman arch wiki [3] might help. Greetings ! -- Javier [1] https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Installation [2] https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/S6 [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dudemanguy at artixlinux.org Thu Oct 28 15:39:47 2021 From: dudemanguy at artixlinux.org (Dudemanguy) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 08:39:47 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Problems installing artix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ee6db8-0dca-aa48-c25a-a37293d1e9da@artixlinux.org> On 10/28/21 02:43, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > The command : > find -executable -name '*brltty*' replies > > ./var/lib/pacman/local/brltty-6.4-1 > ./var/lib/pacman/local/brltty-s6-20210919-1 > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635347459/servicedirs/brltty-srv > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635347459/servicedirs/brltty-log > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349459/servicedirs/brltty-srv > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349459/servicedirs/brltty-log > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349301/servicedirs/brltty-srv > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635349301/servicedirs/brltty-log > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635345068/servicedirs/brltty-srv > ./etc/s6/rc/compiled-1635345068/servicedirs/brltty-log > ./etc/s6/sv/brltty-srv > ./etc/s6/sv/brltty-log > ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty > ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-stop.sh > ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty/brltty-start.sh > ./usr/lib/brltty > ./usr/share/brltty > > In directory > ./usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/99brltty > the README file says that an executable file /sur/bin/brltty should exist > but it's not the case. Big apologies, the brltty package had a mistake where it was not installing the binaries like it should have been. This has been corrected in an update. From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Fri Oct 29 12:31:57 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:31:57 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Problems installing artix In-Reply-To: <00ee6db8-0dca-aa48-c25a-a37293d1e9da@artixlinux.org> References: <00ee6db8-0dca-aa48-c25a-a37293d1e9da@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: Le jeudi 28 octobre ? 15:39, Dudemanguy a ?crit : > Big apologies, the brltty package had a mistake where it was not > installing the binaries like it should have been. This has been > corrected in an update. Helle everyone. I tried pacman -S brltty brltty-s6 this morning but nothing changed ; no binary in /usr/bin. Maybe I should have issue another command?? Regards. -- Philippe From dudemanguy at artixlinux.org Fri Oct 29 14:55:47 2021 From: dudemanguy at artixlinux.org (Dudemanguy) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:55:47 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Problems installing artix In-Reply-To: References: <00ee6db8-0dca-aa48-c25a-a37293d1e9da@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: <19a1a376-30dd-2987-ed94-d87f35998ec2@artixlinux.org> On 10/29/21 05:31, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Helle everyone. > > I tried > pacman -S brltty brltty-s6 > this morning but nothing changed ; no binary in /usr/bin. > > Maybe I should have issue another command?? > > Regards. > Did you update (pacman -Syu)? It is in the brltty-6.4-1.1 package. From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sat Oct 30 14:36:39 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 14:36:39 +0200 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration Message-ID: Hi. Sorry, I'm back with my newbie questions :-) Now, braille is OK, so I'm trying to configure the system as I wish. 1. I want to get ten ttys (not six)?; in other distros, I could modify /etc/inittab but such a file seems to be absent from artix. Where to define more consoles?? 2. I want to use the fr keyboard without running loadkeys fr each time ; similarly, I want to use terminus font without issuing each time setfont ter-124n.psf.gz. I worked around by creating a file /etc/bash/bahrc.d/myown.bashrc with this kind of commands but I feel it's not the right method... 3. Each time I begin with artix, I must use connmanctl and type a lot of commands to be connected in wifi. Is it possible to save the configuration to be connected automaticaly?? 4. For email, I normaly use fetchmail to retrieve emails and procmail to dispatch them in different mailboxes. But pacman -Ss does not know these programs. What to do?? Many thanks for your patience and your answers. Regards. -- Philippe From somenxavier at posteo.net Sat Oct 30 14:42:04 2021 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 12:42:04 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20211030144204.f00032a1d45328bed1658588@posteo.net> Hi Philippe, I just know one thing. Perhaps other could help you more: In /etc/conf.d/consolefont you could define console font. On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 14:36:39 +0200 Philippe Delavalade ha escrit: > Hi. Sorry, I'm back with my newbie questions :-) > > Now, braille is OK, so I'm trying to configure the system as I wish. > > 1. I want to get ten ttys (not six)?; in other distros, I could modify > /etc/inittab but such a file seems to be absent from artix. Where to > define more consoles?? > > 2. I want to use the fr keyboard without running loadkeys fr each time ; > similarly, I want to use terminus font without issuing each time setfont > ter-124n.psf.gz. > > I worked around by creating a file /etc/bash/bahrc.d/myown.bashrc with > this kind of commands but I feel it's not the right method... > > 3. Each time I begin with artix, I must use connmanctl and type a lot of > commands to be connected in wifi. Is it possible to save the > configuration to be connected automaticaly?? > > 4. For email, I normaly use fetchmail to retrieve emails and procmail to > dispatch them in different mailboxes. But pacman -Ss does not know these > programs. What to do?? > > Many thanks for your patience and your answers. > > Regards. > > -- > Philippe > -- > artix-general mailing list > artix-general at artixlinux.org > https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general From rptnix at amerytel.net Sat Oct 30 16:51:18 2021 From: rptnix at amerytel.net (epektasis) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 09:51:18 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 02:36:39PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Hi. Sorry, I'm back with my newbie questions :-) > > Now, braille is OK, so I'm trying to configure the system as I wish. > > 1. I want to get ten ttys (not six)?; in other distros, I could modify > /etc/inittab but such a file seems to be absent from artix. Where to > define more consoles?? > > 2. I want to use the fr keyboard without running loadkeys fr each time ; > similarly, I want to use terminus font without issuing each time setfont > ter-124n.psf.gz. > > I worked around by creating a file /etc/bash/bahrc.d/myown.bashrc with > this kind of commands but I feel it's not the right method... > > 3. Each time I begin with artix, I must use connmanctl and type a lot of > commands to be connected in wifi. Is it possible to save the > configuration to be connected automaticaly?? > > 4. For email, I normaly use fetchmail to retrieve emails and procmail to > dispatch them in different mailboxes. But pacman -Ss does not know these > programs. What to do?? > > Many thanks for your patience and your answers. > > Regards. > > -- > Philippe > -- > artix-general mailing list > artix-general at artixlinux.org > https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general Fetchmail is known to pacman -Ss if you have the community repository enabled. Procmail is known to pacman -Ss if you have the extra repository enabled. These are Arch Linux repositories. You can add the Arch Linux repositories with pacman -S artix-archlinux-support. From yetanothergeek at gmail.com Sun Oct 31 02:04:21 2021 From: yetanothergeek at gmail.com (Jeff Pohlmeyer) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:04:21 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 6:33 PM Philippe Delavalade wrote: > 4. For email, I normaly use fetchmail to retrieve emails and procmail to > dispatch them in different mailboxes. But pacman -Ss does not know these > programs. What to do ? procmail and fetchmail are available in the Arch Linux repositories. You can enable them by running the command: pacman -S archlinux-mirrorlist Then add these four lines to the bottom of your /etc/pacman.conf file: [extra] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch [community] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch And then run the commands: pacman-key --populate archlinux pacman -Syu pacman -S procmail fetchmail Hope this helps, - Jeff From qontinuum at artixlinux.org Sun Oct 31 02:18:36 2021 From: qontinuum at artixlinux.org (Qontinuum) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 01:18:36 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20211031011836.5iasz4skhee5ip3v@laptop> On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 02:36:39PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Now, braille is OK, so I'm trying to configure the system as I wish. > > similarly, I want to use terminus font without issuing each time setfont > ter-124n.psf.gz. > -- > Philippe Hey, May I ask, why do you need braille AND a specific font? -- qontinuum -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What to do ? > > procmail and fetchmail are available in the Arch Linux repositories. > You can enable them by running the command: > > > pacman -S archlinux-mirrorlist > > > Then add these four lines to the bottom of your /etc/pacman.conf file: > > > [extra] > Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch > [community] > Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch > > > And then run the commands: > > pacman-key --populate archlinux > pacman -Syu > pacman -S procmail fetchmail > > > Hope this helps, > - Jeff From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sun Oct 31 09:23:15 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 09:23:15 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: <20211031011836.5iasz4skhee5ip3v@laptop> References: <20211031011836.5iasz4skhee5ip3v@laptop> Message-ID: Le dimanche 31 octobre ? 02:18, Qontinuum a ?crit : > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 02:36:39PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > > Now, braille is OK, so I'm trying to configure the system as I wish. > > > > similarly, I want to use terminus font without issuing each time setfont > > ter-124n.psf.gz. > > -- > > Philippe > > Hey, > > May I ask, why do you need braille AND a specific font? No problem :-) I use braille being blind but some sighted people beside me use the screen. -- Philippe From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sun Oct 31 10:46:57 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:46:57 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jeff. i have just tried your comands. Le dimanche 31 octobre ? 02:04, Jeff Pohlmeyer a ?crit : > pacman -S archlinux-mirrorlist No problem > Then add these four lines to the bottom of your /etc/pacman.conf file: > [extra] > Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch > [community] > Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch This was done. > And then run the commands: > pacman-key --populate archlinux This one gave me an reeor : ==> ERROR: The keyring file /usr/share/pacman/keyrings/archlinux.gpg does not exist. Neverthe less I continued > pacman -Syu OK. > pacman -S fetchmail This didn't worked because the package was declared corrupted ; maybe because there was a problem whith the keys. What can I do now?? Regards. -- Philippe From yetanothergeek at gmail.com Sun Oct 31 17:59:38 2021 From: yetanothergeek at gmail.com (Jeff Pohlmeyer) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 11:59:38 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 4:46 AM Philippe Delavalade wrote: > ==> ERROR: The keyring file /usr/share/pacman/keyrings/archlinux.gpg does not exist. Sorry, I missed a step: pacman -S archlinux-keyring Then try again: pacman-key --populate archlinux pacman -Syu pacman -S fetchmail - Jeff From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Sun Oct 31 23:01:35 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 23:01:35 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] Many questions about configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jeff. All is working fine now. Many thanks. Bests. -- Philippe