From alpha at alphvino.com Mon Nov 1 14:53:22 2021 From: alpha at alphvino.com (Alphvino) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:53:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [artix-general] New repos Message-ID: <1010472121.58648.1635774802322@email.ionos.it> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philippe.delavalade at orange.fr Mon Nov 1 15:31:55 2021 From: philippe.delavalade at orange.fr (Philippe Delavalade) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 15:31:55 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] starting daemons Message-ID: Hi. I am now sending and retrieving emails from the artix machine :-) I installed ntp and ntp-s6 but ps -e | grep ntp gave me nothing (even after a reboot). So I tried this but I feel it was not correct : s6-rc-bundle-update add default ntpd When rebooting I got an error message about log. I saw that the file /var/log/ntpd/current was owned by root not by s6log. I ran chown s6log:s6log current and now I don't get error message and ps -e | grep ntp answers 378 ? 00:00:00 ntpd and my date and time are now correct. I have the same problem with maraidbd and fcrond. What the right way to start these daemons?? I read the wiki about s6 but didn't find answers except the command s6-rc-bundle-update add... Can someone help me?? Bests. -- Philippe From dudemanguy at artixlinux.org Mon Nov 1 19:22:49 2021 From: dudemanguy at artixlinux.org (Dudemanguy) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:22:49 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] starting daemons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/1/21 09:31, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Hi. > > I am now sending and retrieving emails from the artix machine :-) > > I installed ntp and ntp-s6 but > ps -e | grep ntp > gave me nothing (even after a reboot). > > So I tried this but I feel it was not correct : > s6-rc-bundle-update add default ntpd > > When rebooting I got an error message about log. > > I saw that the file > /var/log/ntpd/current was owned by root not by s6log. > > I ran > chown s6log:s6log current > and now I don't get error message and > ps -e | grep ntp > answers > 378 ? 00:00:00 ntpd > and my date and time are now correct. > > I have the same problem with maraidbd and fcrond. What the right way to > start these daemons?? > > I read the wiki about s6 but didn't find answers except the command > s6-rc-bundle-update add... > > Can someone help me?? > > Bests. To start an s6-rc service, the command is s6-rc -u change service_name. It is on the wiki. Now /var/log/ntpd/current being owned by root and not s6log is definitely not something that should happen. I was not able to reproduce this. From je-vv at e.email Mon Nov 1 20:54:18 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:54:18 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] starting daemons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e3ea5a-7adc-be76-85bd-0f50fe1acf15@e.email> On 11/1/21 12:22, Dudemanguy wrote: > ... Now /var/log/ntpd/current being owned by root and not > s6log is definitely not something that should happen. I was not able to > reproduce this. Can confirm it's owned by s6log: > % ls -ld /var/log/ntpd/current > -rw-r--r-- 1 s6log s6log 797K Nov 1 13:15 /var/log/ntpd/current -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 228 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From je-vv at e.email Thu Nov 4 05:48:02 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 22:48:02 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [thunderbird-artix] New thunderbird-artix version requires new build of sequoia-octopus-librnp Message-ID: <857820c3-c2f0-72d9-da96-2c70725acf99@e.email> Hello, with current "universe/thunderbird-artix 91.3.0-1", which I got from Today's upgrade: > [2021-11-03T18:05:10-0600] [ALPM] upgraded thunderbird-artix (91.2.1-1 -> 91.3.0-1) GPG functionality got broken when sym linking: > /usr/lib/sequoia-octopus-librnp/libsequoia_octopus_librnp.so To: > /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so Can the sequoia octopus librnp library please re-built, so GPG can be used on Thunderbird with that library instead of the native Thunderbird librnp lib? Taking advantage of the situation, given that Thunderbird with Sequoia Octopus really works well, could it be a new package gets generated, thunderbird-octopus, which has Thunderbird actually built with Sequoia Octopus library instead of its native librnp lib? I don't know how many adopters are there for this combination, but it would make the combination always in sync, besides making its users life a bit easier, :) Thanks a lot ! -- Javier From artist at artixlinux.org Fri Nov 5 17:43:02 2021 From: artist at artixlinux.org (artist) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 17:43:02 +0100 Subject: [artix-general] [thunderbird-artix] New thunderbird-artix version requires new build of sequoia-octopus-librnp In-Reply-To: <857820c3-c2f0-72d9-da96-2c70725acf99@e.email> References: <857820c3-c2f0-72d9-da96-2c70725acf99@e.email> Message-ID: <18be347f-7a89-d142-a6af-9afde3edecbb@artixlinux.org> sequoia-octopus-librnp has been rebuilt, and when using it the log shows: console.debug: "Successfully loaded OpenPGP library librnp.so version 1.1.0-6a8ba80+sequoia-openpgp-1.3.1 from /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so" thunderbird is quite a large package to build, so adding another one is quite something. If/once we would know about a very high adoption rate of sequoia-openpgp that would be a reason to consider this again. Artist -- On 11/4/21 05:48, Javier wrote: > Hello, with current "universe/thunderbird-artix 91.3.0-1", which I got > from Today's upgrade: > >> [2021-11-03T18:05:10-0600] [ALPM] upgraded thunderbird-artix >> (91.2.1-1 -> 91.3.0-1) > > GPG functionality got broken when sym linking: > >> /usr/lib/sequoia-octopus-librnp/libsequoia_octopus_librnp.so > > To: > >> /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so > > Can the sequoia octopus librnp library please re-built, so GPG can be > used on Thunderbird with that library instead of the native > Thunderbird librnp lib? > > Taking advantage of the situation, given that Thunderbird with Sequoia > Octopus really works well, could it be a new package gets generated, > thunderbird-octopus, which has Thunderbird actually built with Sequoia > Octopus library instead of its native librnp lib?? I don't know how > many adopters are there for this combination, but it would make the > combination always in sync, besides making its users life a bit > easier, :) > > Thanks a lot ! > -- On bended knee, or systemd, you will never live free From je-vv at e.email Fri Nov 5 21:33:47 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 14:33:47 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [thunderbird-artix] New thunderbird-artix version requires new build of sequoia-octopus-librnp In-Reply-To: <18be347f-7a89-d142-a6af-9afde3edecbb@artixlinux.org> References: <857820c3-c2f0-72d9-da96-2c70725acf99@e.email> <18be347f-7a89-d142-a6af-9afde3edecbb@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: <2f8e33c9-6572-a7fc-f391-4dac018d1629@e.email> On 11/5/21 10:43, artist wrote: > sequoia-octopus-librnp has been rebuilt, and when using it the log shows: > console.debug: "Successfully loaded OpenPGP library librnp.so version 1.1.0-6a8ba80+sequoia-openpgp-1.3.1 from /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so" Thanks ! > thunderbird is quite a large package to build, so adding another one is quite something. > If/once we would know about a very high adoption rate of sequoia-openpgp that would be a reason to consider this again. BTW, I'm wondering is there something like pkgstats on Arch, but for Artix own DB? Is there a way for you guys to know what is being at least installed (it doesn't mean used, but perhaps it's the closest without invading privacy). Thanks a lot ! -- Javier From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Nov 5 23:38:05 2021 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 18:38:05 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] [thunderbird-artix] New thunderbird-artix version requires new build of sequoia-octopus-librnp In-Reply-To: <18be347f-7a89-d142-a6af-9afde3edecbb@artixlinux.org> References: <857820c3-c2f0-72d9-da96-2c70725acf99@e.email> <18be347f-7a89-d142-a6af-9afde3edecbb@artixlinux.org> Message-ID: <20211105223804.GB20567@www2.mrbrklyn.com> why? On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 05:43:02PM +0100, artist wrote: > sequoia-octopus-librnp has been rebuilt, and when using it the log shows: > console.debug: "Successfully loaded OpenPGP library librnp.so > version 1.1.0-6a8ba80+sequoia-openpgp-1.3.1 from > /usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so" > > thunderbird is quite a large package to build, so adding another one > is quite something. > If/once we would know about a very high adoption rate of > sequoia-openpgp that would be a reason to consider this again. > > Artist > > -- > > On 11/4/21 05:48, Javier wrote: > >Hello, with current "universe/thunderbird-artix 91.3.0-1", which I > >got from Today's upgrade: > > > >>[2021-11-03T18:05:10-0600] [ALPM] upgraded thunderbird-artix > >>(91.2.1-1 -> 91.3.0-1) > > > >GPG functionality got broken when sym linking: > > > >>/usr/lib/sequoia-octopus-librnp/libsequoia_octopus_librnp.so > > > >To: > > > >>/usr/lib/thunderbird/librnp.so > > > >Can the sequoia octopus librnp library please re-built, so GPG can > >be used on Thunderbird with that library instead of the native > >Thunderbird librnp lib? > > > >Taking advantage of the situation, given that Thunderbird with > >Sequoia Octopus really works well, could it be a new package gets > >generated, thunderbird-octopus, which has Thunderbird actually > >built with Sequoia Octopus library instead of its native librnp > >lib?? I don't know how many adopters are there for this > >combination, but it would make the combination always in sync, > >besides making its users life a bit easier, :) > > > >Thanks a lot ! > > > > -- > On bended knee, or systemd, you will never live free > > -- > artix-general mailing list > artix-general at artixlinux.org > https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Nov 12 14:51:35 2021 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 08:51:35 -0500 Subject: [artix-general] Sound system is broken Message-ID: <20211112135134.GA4443@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Something changed in permisions of the sound system and when I run the updates it breaks the sound on the last two updates I changed chmod 777 /dev/snd/* flatbush:[ruben]:~$ sudo ls -al /dev/snd/* crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 11 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/controlC0 crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 9 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/hwC0D0 crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 10 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/hwC0D2 crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 3 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 2 Nov 12 08:45 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 4 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 5 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 6 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D7p crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 7 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D8p crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 8 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D9p crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 1 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/seq crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 116, 33 Nov 6 19:28 /dev/snd/timer cat /etc/group|grep aud audio:x:995:xmms2,ruben What is going on please? I added myselft to the group audio and it still failed to work -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From 4L1V3 at protonmail.com Thu Nov 25 12:31:17 2021 From: 4L1V3 at protonmail.com (4L1V3) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 11:31:17 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] Bizarre - can't access forum + pacman questions Message-ID: First and foremost, I cannot accessthe forums At first I thought it was a browser issue, as the error message was talking about tokens. I thought to myself 'it would be ironic if the pre-supplied browser (Midori or whatever) is unable to be used to join Artix forum. So I tried other browsers, and in the end, other distros. Eventually I managed to create the account but then the validation link wouldn't work - again no matter what the browser. Whatever I try, I cannot access the forum and ask what is my main dealbreaker question. Can I get pacman to stop asking me questions I don't understand? On EVERY other Arch-based system I've used, [-Syu] gets the job done, and I'm occasionally asked to say 'Yes' or choose between 'joplin' and 'joplin-git' or some such. FIRST time I ran the update on Artix, I was asked about packages I have no clue about, including canberra and something else. I have a broad knowledge of linux packages but no one can know them all. Is there ANY way I can modify my setup so that it behaves like it would on Obarun/Garuda/Manjaro, etc. where it JUST works? I'd love to use Artix i3 and contribute to bug testing and helping maintain it, but that's not going to be possible if it's asking me too much right off the bat. Thanks in advance for any response on these issues. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dudemanguy at artixlinux.org Thu Nov 25 16:50:55 2021 From: dudemanguy at artixlinux.org (Dudemanguy) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 09:50:55 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] Bizarre - can't access forum + pacman questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/25/21 05:31, 4L1V3 wrote: > Can I get pacman to stop asking me questions I don't understand? > On EVERY other Arch-based system I've used, [-Syu] gets the job done, > and I'm occasionally asked to say 'Yes' or choose between 'joplin' and > 'joplin-git' or some such. I guess you are presumably getting prompts asking you which repo to use since some packages exist in both Artix and Arch repos. The general rule of thumb is to just pick Artix repos (the first one). You can simply use --noconfirm if you really don't want pacman to prompt you with any questions ever. From somenxavier at posteo.net Thu Nov 25 21:29:32 2021 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:29:32 +0000 Subject: [artix-general] inadyn-openrc package request Message-ID: <20211125212932.c44ca703417a74ccfeac3bb5@posteo.net> Hi, I installed inadyn via AUR (inadyn-fork). Is it possible to create an -openrc package associated with it? Can we adapt somehow the alpine package [https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/inadyn?h=master]? Thanks, Xavier PS: I'm just a user From je-vv at e.email Tue Nov 30 22:02:07 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:02:07 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [artix-geral] packages dropped, I believe from Universe, specially autofs-s6 and sequoia-octopus-librnp Message-ID: <6e2ebb18-1ca0-a4f3-ead4-0d13238a6be4@e.email> > % pacman -Qmq > autofs > autofs-s6 > librewolf > sequoia-octopus-librnp > thunderbird-artix > tor-browser > ungoogled-chromium As universe is not official, I guess this is normal. I believe most of them can be found on AUR (well thunderbird from arch extra), although it's not the same to use a distro built package, with the distro own libraries ans such, than a binary generated from and for another distro, which is what usually happens with *-bin packages on AUR, if not wanting to build huge packages, such as librewolf. The exceptions are autofs-s6 and sequoia-octopus-librnp, which I don't see available on AUR. Although I'd like a non systemd distto to provide autofs, and its service package (in my case autofs-s6), given I don't find equivalent non systemd SW, I can get away with the AUR autofs, but I'm still missing autofs-s6. The sequoia-octopus-librnp package I know is sort of a special case, but I really liked it compared to what TB provides, which I really dislike. Where can I grab the last versions of autofs-s6 and sequoia-octopus-librnp pacman packages (PKGBUILD and company)? And do you know, at least for the sequoia-octopus-librnp, how to find out about new versions? It's sad to see those packages dropped, but I guess their maintainers are too busy to keep an eye on them. I'll really miss them, specially the two ones I mentioned not having AUR equivalents. Thanks ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Re-adding seems to fix this but as I continued to find packages with this problem I have now added all packages back again. If the problems persists I'll rebuild the database from scratch. The packages you mention should be available right now, and we will keep updating them as usual. The whole universe remains for all of us. You might also find some useful packages in the omniverse repo as in https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories#Unofficial_User_Repositories Regards, artist -- On a bended knee, or systemd, you will never live free On 11/30/21 22:02, Javier wrote: >> % pacman -Qmq autofs >> autofs-s6 >> librewolf >> sequoia-octopus-librnp >> thunderbird-artix >> tor-browser >> ungoogled-chromium > > As universe is not official, I guess this is normal.? I believe most > of them can be found on AUR (well thunderbird from arch extra), > although it's not the same to use a distro built package, with the > distro own libraries ans such, than a binary generated from and for > another distro, which is what usually happens with *-bin packages on > AUR, if not wanting to build huge packages, such as librewolf.? The > exceptions are autofs-s6 and sequoia-octopus-librnp, which I don't see > available on AUR. > > Although I'd like a non systemd distto to provide autofs, and its > service package (in my case autofs-s6), given I don't find equivalent > non systemd SW,? I can get away with the AUR autofs, but I'm still > missing autofs-s6.? The sequoia-octopus-librnp package I know is sort > of a special case, but I really liked it compared to what TB provides, > which I really dislike. > > Where can I grab the last versions of autofs-s6 and > sequoia-octopus-librnp pacman packages (PKGBUILD and company)? And do > you know, at least for the sequoia-octopus-librnp, how to find out > about new versions? > > It's sad to see those packages dropped, but I guess their maintainers > are too busy to keep an eye on them.? I'll really miss them, specially > the two ones I mentioned not having AUR equivalents. > > Thanks ! > > From je-vv at e.email Tue Nov 30 22:58:11 2021 From: je-vv at e.email (Javier) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:58:11 -0600 Subject: [artix-general] [artix-geral] packages dropped, I believe from Universe, specially autofs-s6 and sequoia-octopus-librnp In-Reply-To: <6e2ebb18-1ca0-a4f3-ead4-0d13238a6be4@e.email> References: <6e2ebb18-1ca0-a4f3-ead4-0d13238a6be4@e.email> Message-ID: <4cb3a75a-4352-3e3b-c1d0-b635a6765716@e.email> Sorry for the noise, perhaps something went temporally wrong with universe... I don't see the dropped packages any more: > % pacman -Qmq > % Sorry for the noise. Thanks ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Re-adding seems to fix this but as I continued to find packages with this problem I have now added all packages back again. If the problems persists I'll rebuild the database from scratch. > The packages you mention should be available right now, and we will keep updating them as usual. > > The whole universe remains for all of us. > > You might also find some useful packages in the omniverse repo as in https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories#Unofficial_User_Repositories Thanks a lot @artist ! Yup, they are back... I got a bit scared, hehe. I'm also using omniverse BTW, and some packages I have actually come from it, :). Thanks again ! -- Javier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_0x4D6C8D58AD385CAA.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 1236 bytes Desc: OpenPGP public key URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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