Pipewire can work without Pulse
Why dont we work together to build a list
of apps that need
or dont need pulse
Most applications that work without Pulse
and work with alsa works fine with pipewire
without pipewire Pulse
1. LibreWolf - browser http - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
2. Langrage - Browwser gemini -Alsa + pipewire without pulse
3. Smplayer - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
4. mpg13 - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
5. Volomeico - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
6. Mumble - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
7. Simplescreenrecorder - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
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No ALSA support:
* Firefox removed Alsa - Pulse only
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Partical ALSA or semi removed
* OBS
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Regards
Charliebrownau
charliebrownau at protonmail.com
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 20:54:19 -0600
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> From: Javier je-vv at e.email
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> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume
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> On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote:
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> > What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse you will not have any audio from those software.
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> > Until the people who write those software modify their software and add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse.
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> > Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the magic work.
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> I see, thanks a lot for clarifying !
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> I'll give it a try then. I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a day use pulse as their audio backend...
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> Thanks again !
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> Personally I think it does no harm leaving pipewire-alsa on there. And
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> who knows, you might just run into some software somewhere that does
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> actually use alsa without you even realizing it.
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> On 7/4/21 10:54 PM, Javier wrote:
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> > On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote:
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> > > What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software
> > >
> > > wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse
> > >
> > > you will not have any audio from those software.
> > >
> > > Until the people who write those software modify their software and
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> > > add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse.
> > >
> > > Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having
> > >
> > > pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes
> > >
> > > pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and
> > >
> > > pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a
> > >
> > > compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse
> > >
> > > audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the
> > >
> > > magic work.
> >
> > I see, thanks a lot for clarifying !
> >
> > I'll give it a try then.? I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's
> >
> > no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a
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> > day use pulse as their audio backend...
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> > Thanks again !
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> Chris Cromer
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