From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Oct 1 11:49:24 2017 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 04:49:24 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] forum seems to be broken Message-ID: <1f883700-6870-1ca5-2057-9eb63c240dd9@mrbrklyn.com> The forum is not allowing to create a new topic. It says there is a problem with attachments, and I'm not using any. I tried to test a second browser and it wouldn't let me log in or change a password. it said it would send a reset link via email, none was received. I tried changing the password, that seems to not work. Something is wrong. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From nous at artixlinux.org Sun Oct 1 12:20:18 2017 From: nous at artixlinux.org (Christos Nouskas) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 12:20:18 +0300 Subject: [artix-general] forum seems to be broken In-Reply-To: <1f883700-6870-1ca5-2057-9eb63c240dd9@mrbrklyn.com> References: <1f883700-6870-1ca5-2057-9eb63c240dd9@mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: Fixed, thanks for reporting! On 1 October 2017 at 11:49, Ruben Safir wrote: > The forum is not allowing to create a new topic. It says there is a > problem with attachments, and I'm not using any. I tried to test a > second browser and it wouldn't let me log in or change a password. it > said it would send a reset link via email, none was received. > > I tried changing the password, that seems to not work. Something is wrong. > > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Tue Oct 3 11:55:21 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 04:55:21 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here Message-ID: I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. All three of my installations get the same exact error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nouskas at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 14:47:27 2017 From: nouskas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?zqfPgeG/hs+Dz4TOv8+CIM6dzr/Pjc+DzrrOsc+CIChDaHJpc3RvcyBOb3Vza2FzKQ==?=) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:47:27 +0300 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: > I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I > upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I > get > kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init > I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. > I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault > be I am clueless. > The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find > anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. > > Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system > other than upgrading and browsing. > All three of my installations get the same exact error. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Tue Oct 3 14:57:16 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:57:16 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7-Y_0AucLD92UGXx_Iiv8091_PAtcyPoEDd27CQxmjn2H9kswDrTKtIvrRwtJAntNa2lOnTUzB7uK25vwArWuOjkOW4WIQ-sJ910RGGnoM8=@protonmail.com> > From: nouskas at gmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All > > I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. > > On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: > >> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get >> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. >> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >> >> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. >> All three of my installations get the same exact error. I have linux-ck and -lts, no difference. system-testing/glibc 2.26-4 (base) [installed] GNU C Library system-testing/glibc-openrc 20170904-1 (openrc-system) [installed] OpenRC nscd init script system/glibc 2.25-7 (base) [installed: 2.26-4] GNU C Library system/glibc-openrc 20170712-1 (openrc-system) [installed: 20170904-1] OpenRC nscd init script Should I try pacman -U on those two? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Tue Oct 3 16:05:23 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 09:05:23 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: <7-Y_0AucLD92UGXx_Iiv8091_PAtcyPoEDd27CQxmjn2H9kswDrTKtIvrRwtJAntNa2lOnTUzB7uK25vwArWuOjkOW4WIQ-sJ910RGGnoM8=@protonmail.com> References: <7-Y_0AucLD92UGXx_Iiv8091_PAtcyPoEDd27CQxmjn2H9kswDrTKtIvrRwtJAntNa2lOnTUzB7uK25vwArWuOjkOW4WIQ-sJ910RGGnoM8=@protonmail.com> Message-ID: > From: fungilife at protonmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org > >> From: nouskas at gmail.com >> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All >> >> I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. >> >> On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: >> >>> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get >>> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >>> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >>> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. >>> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >>> >>> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. >>> All three of my installations get the same exact error. > > I have linux-ck and -lts, no difference. > > system-testing/glibc 2.26-4 (base) [installed] GNU C Library > system-testing/glibc-openrc 20170904-1 (openrc-system) [installed] OpenRC nscd init script > system/glibc 2.25-7 (base) [installed: 2.26-4] GNU C Library > system/glibc-openrc 20170712-1 (openrc-system) [installed: 20170904-1] OpenRC nscd init script > > Should I try pacman -U on those two? system-testing/elogind 234.4-1 [installed] The systemd project's logind, extracted to a standalone package system-testing/elogind-openrc 20171001-1 (openrc-system base) [installed] OpenRC elogind init script system-testing/libelogind 234.4-1 (base-devel) [installed] elogind client libraries system/elogind 234.2-2 [installed: 234.4-1] The systemd project's logind, extracted to a standalone package system/elogind-openrc 20170717-1 (openrc-system base) [installed: 20171001-1] OpenRC elogind init script system/libelogind 234.2-2 (base-devel) [installed: 234.4-1] elogind client libraries > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Tue Oct 3 16:13:39 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 09:13:39 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ???? ?? ????? ??'?? ??????? ?? ???????; ;) ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ???????, ??? ?????? ??????, ???? ?? ?????? ??????, ?? ?????? .... ?? ??????? ??? ??????? ??? ?????????????. ?'????? ? ????????????? ??? ??? > From: nouskas at gmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All > > I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. > > On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: > >> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get >> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. >> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >> >> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. >> All three of my installations get the same exact error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nouskas at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 17:22:06 2017 From: nouskas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?zqfPgeG/hs+Dz4TOv8+CIM6dzr/Pjc+DzrrOsc+CIChDaHJpc3RvcyBOb3Vza2FzKQ==?=) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 17:22:06 +0300 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ????????, ???, ??? ????? ?????. ????????: 1. mkinitcpio -P && grub-install /dev/sdX && update-grub (???? X ? ?????? ???) 2. ?? ??? ?????? ????, ?????????? ??? glibc. On Oct 3, 2017 16:13, "Fungi4All" wrote: > ???? ?? ????? ??'?? ??????? ?? ???????; > ;) > > ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ???????, ??? ?????? ??????, ???? ?? > ?????? ??????, > ?? ?????? .... ?? ??????? ??? ??????? ??? ?????????????. > ?'????? ? ????????????? ??? ??? > > From: nouskas at gmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All > > I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any > chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to > troubleshoot on guesses though. > > On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: > >> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. >> I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I >> get >> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the >> fault be I am clueless. >> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find >> anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >> >> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system >> other than upgrading and browsing. >> All three of my installations get the same exact error. >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Wed Oct 4 03:39:25 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:39:25 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With my one installation I managed after chroot to it to remove glibc-openrc I rebooted into recovery and it seems to have fixed itself. I tried the same with my main installation and it is not working. I have no network with chroot and unable to run mkinitcpio or grub-update The error again says: /init error line 28 syntax ... >>> From: nouskas at gmail.com >>> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All >>> >>> I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: >>> >>>> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get >>>> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >>>> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >>>> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. >>>> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >>>> >>>> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. >>>> All three of my installations get the same exact error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fungilife at protonmail.com Wed Oct 4 14:23:33 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 07:23:33 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > From: fungilife at protonmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org > > With my one installation I managed after chroot to it to remove glibc-openrc > I rebooted into recovery and it seems to have fixed itself. > I tried the same with my main installation and it is not working. > I have no network with chroot and unable to run mkinitcpio or grub-update > > The error again says: > /init error line 28 syntax ... > >>>> From: nouskas at gmail.com >>>> To: artix-general at artixlinux.org, Fungi4All >>>> >>>> I'm guessing you're on linux-lts. If so, try downgrading glibc. If by any chance you're on linux 4.13.x, downgrade to 4.12 or lts. Hard to troubleshoot on guesses though. >>>> >>>> On Oct 3, 2017 11:55, "Fungi4All" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have [system-testing] only and the rest are the default repositories. I upgraded less than 12hrs ago, everything fine but when I rebooted today I get >>>>> kernel panic. The error says line 28 (maybe 20?) on init >>>>> I tried chrooting into it I couldn't get much of anything out of it. >>>>> I suspect it may have to do with elogind but where exactly might the fault be I am clueless. >>>>> The error happens very early in the boot process to be able to find anything in the logs, like the first step from bios. >>>>> >>>>> Did anyone else get this? I didn't really do anything else to the system other than upgrading and browsing. >>>>> All three of my installations get the same exact error. My first mistake was not knowing how to chroot properly into an Arch based system. $ cd /media/Artix (or whatever you use to mount the installation root directory) $ sudo mount -t proc proc proc/ $ sudo mount --rbind /sys sys/ $ sudo mount --rbind /dev dev/ $ sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf etc/resolv.conf $ sudo chroot /media/Artix The second mistake is having blind faith on Artix repositories and the upgrading procedure. There have been times in the recent past where I logged in and run pacman Syyu and less than an hour later there would be more updates. It seems as the repositories take a little while to sync properly. So all three of my installations were done in a window of getting half upgraded. After properly chrooting today this was the output: Packages(11) glib2-2.54.1-1 glib2-docs-2.54.1-1 libpng-1.6.34-2 meson-0.42.1-3 mkinitcpio-24-1.3 openrc-0.32-1 p11-kit-0.23.9-1 python-gitdb-2.0.3-1 python-gitpython-2.1.7-1 python2-pillow-4.3.0-1 smplayer-17.10.0-1 It seems as glibc and I remember elogind were upgraded 36-48hrs ago without the above and the pass of mkinitcpio produced unbootable images. All I did today through chroot was upgrade and reboot. I don't know whether this list has or will have a public archive, I am posting this for future reference as I did in the forum too. Peace! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vishnugb at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 17:39:15 2017 From: vishnugb at gmail.com (Vishnu V K) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:09:15 +0530 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1854204.bTx9hDGeJz@latt> > My first mistake was not knowing how to chroot properly into an Arch based > system. If you use the Artix ISO to live boot, it already has a custom chroot-ing command called 'artools-chroot', after mounting boot, root, etc. Check out the following tutorial: https://artixlinux.org/forum/index.php?topic=41.0 > > The second mistake is having blind faith on Artix repositories and the > upgrading procedure. Are you mixing repos, or something? Nobody else (as far as I know) seems to have broken their system (yet) purely by upgrading. Are you using all testing repos, or some testing and some stable? Vishnu -- ? OpenPGP fingerprint: 5015 1D4C 9BDF 9062 A9E1 62CB 5B1F4BEE7EED7131 From fungilife at protonmail.com Wed Oct 4 22:57:21 2017 From: fungilife at protonmail.com (Fungi4All) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 15:57:21 -0400 Subject: [artix-general] Howdy kernel panicing here In-Reply-To: <1854204.bTx9hDGeJz@latt> References: <1854204.bTx9hDGeJz@latt> Message-ID: > From: vishnugb at gmail.com > To: artix-general at artixlinux.org > >> My first mistake was not knowing how to chroot properly into an Arch based >> system. > > If you use the Artix ISO to live boot, it already has a custom chroot-ing > command called "artools-chroot", after mounting boot, root, etc. Check out the > following tutorial: > > https://artixlinux.org/forum/index.php?topic=41.0 > >> >> The second mistake is having blind faith on Artix repositories and the >> upgrading procedure. > > Are you mixing repos, or something? Nobody else (as far as I know) seems to > have broken their system (yet) purely by upgrading. > > Are you using all testing repos, or some testing and some stable? > > Vishnu > -- > ? OpenPGP fingerprint: 5015 1D4C 9BDF 9062 A9E1 62CB 5B1F4BEE7EED7131 I was away for a couple of days, I came back, booted, upgraded, browsed through email and then shut it off. That's all I did. I always rerun pacman -Su to make sure there was nothing left to do. I had done this in the same small period for my other installations as well, same pkg list came up. The next day none would boot. I run system-testing from the first day it was announced, when world and galaxy were not ready yet. On that first day I made the mistake and disabled [system] but I found out that stable and testing must be both enabled. Now all three are testing (sys-world-galaxy). Is this wrong? I haven't seen detailed instructions on this and never had any arch experience. In Manjaro all you had to do was switch a tag stable/testing/unstable. Anyway, it has happened before where some things would show through an upgrade and less than an hour later more would appear. I must have fallen through the cracks of in between critical updates. I am sure I did not alter anything else in the system as I had no energy that day to deal with anything else other than check email, news, the weather. I installed Artix the first day it was announced it existed in the Manjaro-forum. I only converted my Manjaro-OpenRC the week they pulled OpenRC and eudev off their repositories. There was someone else on the forum who said they did an upgrade and their system wouldn't reboot a few days before me. I can only interpret this as mirrors not syncing as expected. Maybe for every set of related updates there should be a specific release that must be complete before any update can take place. 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Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 From nouskas at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 12:36:45 2017 From: nouskas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?zqfPgeG/hs+Dz4TOv8+CIM6dzr/Pjc+DzrrOsc+CIChDaHJpc3RvcyBOb3Vza2FzKQ==?=) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 12:36:45 +0300 Subject: [artix-general] vim and root In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried holding down ? On 1 October 2017 at 11:50, Ruben Safir wrote: > I can cut and past through SSH with vim when I either sudo or use su- > > it is very fustrating. How can I change that. > > Ruben > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > -- ?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: